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  • saral1
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    Can you RELY on your Chinese friends/people?

    I have people here who I know I can trust.. to be fairly honest with me (though not always open), I know they won't rip me off, I know they will repay me...

     

    However, when it comes to actually having to rely on them - for them to actually follow through on something they said they'd do... quite often it turns up empty :(

     

    And, I'm not talking about really difficult things.

     

    Just recently, I asked people to look for some things for me. I know, all it would take is a quick Baidu or similar. Or access a website for some information. However,.... meiyou. Bu zhi dao. Or, I'll ask someone... (WTF for? I could do this myself if my Chinese was better!!!)

     

    Do you find this? Simple requests seem far too difficult to figure out.... and you're left hanging.

    9 years agoin Culture-All
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  • sylvie
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    I have a few friends that I can rely on. The thing is--I have a few EXTREMELY WESTERNIZED friends that I can rely on. People who have spent years learning English, reading (not memorizing and regurgitating) Western literature, and who aspire to be real entrepreneurs (not slimy cockroach businesspeople) working with other Westerners (and not just suck one person for all they are worth, one by one). Yeah, it took me time to find those people. I really lucked into them.
    9 years ago
  • justin1122
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    I have several Chinese friends who would go out of their way to help me out, and have done so in the past. If I ever let them know about some problem I'm having, they'll almost invariably offer to help. I normally refuse, but when I accept, they always follow through with the offer. If I had a newborn baby kid, I'd trust them with its life. So I'm a bit nonplussed by this idea that Chinese people are unreliable, or don't honour promises. I guess you folks just need to find some better Chinese friends.
    9 years ago
  • chrisl
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    I knew Cuban guy in Florida:

    me: ''wassup friendo....."

    he: ''why are you calling me 'my friend?''

    me: ''because........''

    he: ''always when I hear 'my friend' I run away."

    me: ''why's that?''

    he: ''because it never happened somebody would say 'my friend, here is US$100 for you!

    And it always happened 'my friend, give me this, my friend give me that!'' angel

    9 years ago
  • jasons
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    Friends yes, strangers no.

    But I am a very trusting person.

    For example, when I pay the bill in my local bar, I just hand over my wallet and let the barmaid take whatever the bill is. I do that both sober or drunk.

    To me its a test. I am testing myself. Do I practice what I preach? And not in a religious way.

    I believe that all people are fundamentally honest. Dishonesty is something that is taught.

    Another example, myself and a group of Chinese friends are into photography. We loan each other $2k lenses all the time. Its almost as if all our camera gear is a shared resource. One of the group has my Canon 24-70 at the moment, Next time I see her I will be borrowing her 16-35 Smile

    9 years ago
  • melkoved
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    Short answer: No, you can't.

    These people only use foreigners for face. Women usually want free English teachers and "just want to make friends" so they can tell their girl-friends they know a foreigner. Don't ever expect to meet any of them. That's a loss of face to be seen in public with one (maybe not in Shanghai or a bigger city, but in 2nd and 3rd tier cities, it's the norm).

    Men only want the face that comes in showing they know a foreigner. It makes them look good in their boy-friends' eyes.

    Normally, any time a Chinese person comes up to me, I meet them with overt suspicion. I can sum up their intentions in about a minute and then I react accordingly.

    9 years ago
  • galla
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    I have Chinese friends I can definetly rely on. I think they'd help me out regardless of the circumstances. They re a big part of the attraction of China
    9 years ago
  • john11
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    this might be related to the poor multitasking that people have witnessed, like thoughtlessly abandoning your child to buy something in a shop.

    it's not the first time i've heard that you can't rely on people to do things. icnif77 says you must keep repeating the request, but i just mentally prepare for the likelihood of things not getting done on time.

    when someone asks my help and i agree (i won't say yes to every request, especially if it looks like they didn't try anything before asking me), it's fairly high on my priority list. it will get done within a day, and if not, it gets labeled urgent in my mind.

    even my Chinese wife will listen to Chinese people speaking before listening to me. in this sense, the unreliable aspect may be a sign that we are low on people's priority list. we see requests as pleas for help and respond as we would to any Mayday - with haste. they see requests as an indulgence, and will give you the courtesy of their aid when they see fit, as long as nothing personal needs to be done.

    the only requests i've gone China-style on are proofreading requests with vague compensation offers. similarly, requests for quick baidu searches may go unanswered because the person doesn't want to become your personal search engine - perhaps misjudging how often you plan on making requests.

    9 years ago
  • grant11
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    Chinese person; "He is/you are my very bestest foreigner friend. We are best friends now. This is my very best friend. We are gooood friends."

    Other Chinese to whom he speaks; "Wow! You are so strong and powerful and we all want to be you."

    Me; "Steady on mate... Anyhow, what do you want this time? What's your name again?"

    9 years ago
  • greg11
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    Chinese... non-Chinese...

    The only person that you can rely on is yourself.

    9 years ago
  • venpet
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    I also have several people i know i would get money back from and yet not one of them would i count as a friend
    9 years ago

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